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	<title>Comments on: Where&#8217;s the theology?</title>
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		<title>By: Kenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I think setting up our own curriculum period isn&#039;t the best answer... in most cases. But that&#039;s just my opinion. I think many Children&#039;s Pastors create their own lessons and curriculum and they&#039;re not even remotely qualified to do such. But, that&#039;s the educator in me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I think setting up our own curriculum period isn&#8217;t the best answer&#8230; in most cases. But that&#8217;s just my opinion. I think many Children&#8217;s Pastors create their own lessons and curriculum and they&#8217;re not even remotely qualified to do such. But, that&#8217;s the educator in me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I&#039;ll agree that theology is important, I think that setting up more curriculum to make sure were being intentional isn&#039;t the best answer (which I&#039;m sure I don&#039;t know what the best answer is).

One of the things that we are beginning to do is to teach the story of the Bible from beginning to end. The weakness that I see with most curricula is that it is extremely repetitive and it doesn&#039;t teach children how to observe, interpret and apply for themselves.
Writers tend to want to make sure that the teach a certain principle, then look for a story that can be used to get that point across. While not the worse thing to do, writers tend to use the same stories over and over again, expanding on them each time. This leaves children thinking they know some stories inside out (which they don&#039;t) and having never heard others.
We&#039;ll be trying this out, so I have know idea that it&#039;s a perfect solution, but it&#039;s been sought and prayed about for a time....
Our Sunday school classes will be going through the bible from k-5th grade, never repeating any of the stories. During that same time, children who go to our children&#039;s church will go through the Bible in a year (hopefully six times over 6 years). In children&#039;s church they&#039;ll learn how to Observe (in our story time), Interpret and apply (in small groups)...and I believe that if we start at the beginning and go through the Bible in a story format, most if not all of anyone&#039;s theological starting points will be covered somewhere along the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;ll agree that theology is important, I think that setting up more curriculum to make sure were being intentional isn&#8217;t the best answer (which I&#8217;m sure I don&#8217;t know what the best answer is).</p>
<p>One of the things that we are beginning to do is to teach the story of the Bible from beginning to end. The weakness that I see with most curricula is that it is extremely repetitive and it doesn&#8217;t teach children how to observe, interpret and apply for themselves.<br />
Writers tend to want to make sure that the teach a certain principle, then look for a story that can be used to get that point across. While not the worse thing to do, writers tend to use the same stories over and over again, expanding on them each time. This leaves children thinking they know some stories inside out (which they don&#8217;t) and having never heard others.<br />
We&#8217;ll be trying this out, so I have know idea that it&#8217;s a perfect solution, but it&#8217;s been sought and prayed about for a time&#8230;.<br />
Our Sunday school classes will be going through the bible from k-5th grade, never repeating any of the stories. During that same time, children who go to our children&#8217;s church will go through the Bible in a year (hopefully six times over 6 years). In children&#8217;s church they&#8217;ll learn how to Observe (in our story time), Interpret and apply (in small groups)&#8230;and I believe that if we start at the beginning and go through the Bible in a story format, most if not all of anyone&#8217;s theological starting points will be covered somewhere along the way.</p>
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		<title>By: J.C.</title>
		<link>http://www.childrensministryonline.com/fresh-ideas/wheres-the-theology/comment-page-1/#comment-743</link>
		<dc:creator>J.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also think that it can be included through your curriculum. I always make sure that our kids know that:

God is not Angry with me.

God loves me more than I can love myself.

God can always be reached.

And yeah the parent thing is tough. Whether the family ministry or not. If anyone finds a fool(me)-proof way to get the parents interested in taking charge of developing their child&#039;s spiritual walk please let me know. But I do think that it&#039;s important to develop their thought of God&#039;s character.

J.C.&#8217;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://jcsonline.wordpress.com/2009/02/24/theology-in-childrens-ministry/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Theology in Children’s Ministry&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also think that it can be included through your curriculum. I always make sure that our kids know that:</p>
<p>God is not Angry with me.</p>
<p>God loves me more than I can love myself.</p>
<p>God can always be reached.</p>
<p>And yeah the parent thing is tough. Whether the family ministry or not. If anyone finds a fool(me)-proof way to get the parents interested in taking charge of developing their child&#8217;s spiritual walk please let me know. But I do think that it&#8217;s important to develop their thought of God&#8217;s character.</p>
<p>J.C.&#8217;s last blog post..<a href="http://jcsonline.wordpress.com/2009/02/24/theology-in-childrens-ministry/" rel="nofollow">Theology in Children’s Ministry</a></p>
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		<title>By: Henry Zonio</title>
		<link>http://www.childrensministryonline.com/fresh-ideas/wheres-the-theology/comment-page-1/#comment-744</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Zonio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kenny, I&#039;m in a bit of the same situatin you are in. On any given weekend, I can have half to two-thirds of kids who are from families that are still trying to figure out what it means to follow God and have not prior church background. What I&#039;ve tried to do is intentionally explain theological concepts when they come up in lessons... such as salvation, atonement, prayer, etc. I use the &quot;big&quot; word and then simply explain it. As for parents, I simply try to connect with them personally (and have my team do the same) and encourage them to look into things like learning the Lord&#039;s Prayer or the Apostles&#039; Creed or the Jesus Creed (a la Scot McKnight... a version of the Shema which includes loving your neighbour as yourself)... I don&#039;t do much &quot;packaging&quot; of stuff. I do more pointing to different resources and encouraging so that I&#039;m not sending a &quot;curriculum&quot; home with parents, which I have problems with.

Henry Zonio&#8217;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/elementalcm/~3/514414251/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New Study About Spirituality vs. Religion and Children&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kenny, I&#8217;m in a bit of the same situatin you are in. On any given weekend, I can have half to two-thirds of kids who are from families that are still trying to figure out what it means to follow God and have not prior church background. What I&#8217;ve tried to do is intentionally explain theological concepts when they come up in lessons&#8230; such as salvation, atonement, prayer, etc. I use the &#8220;big&#8221; word and then simply explain it. As for parents, I simply try to connect with them personally (and have my team do the same) and encourage them to look into things like learning the Lord&#8217;s Prayer or the Apostles&#8217; Creed or the Jesus Creed (a la Scot McKnight&#8230; a version of the Shema which includes loving your neighbour as yourself)&#8230; I don&#8217;t do much &#8220;packaging&#8221; of stuff. I do more pointing to different resources and encouraging so that I&#8217;m not sending a &#8220;curriculum&#8221; home with parents, which I have problems with.</p>
<p>Henry Zonio&#8217;s last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/elementalcm/~3/514414251/" rel="nofollow">New Study About Spirituality vs. Religion and Children</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kenny</title>
		<link>http://www.childrensministryonline.com/fresh-ideas/wheres-the-theology/comment-page-1/#comment-748</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thoughts everyone.

Yes, a very interesting balance. I&#039;m a part of a church that is very much engaging with the culture, so a straight up catechism isn&#039;t the solution. However, when you utilize purchased curriculum, how do you impress the doctrine that you want to teach on the schedule you want to emphasize... when do you make time for it? I know, most purchased curriculum contains a certain amount of applied doctrine, but is it intentional enough?

The other thought? How do you maybe push this home? Yeah, our parents need to know this stuff as much as their kids? Can it be packaged in a way that kills two birds... teaches good theology while engaging parents? These are just thoughts... might write a follow-up post. You guys have gotten me thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thoughts everyone.</p>
<p>Yes, a very interesting balance. I&#8217;m a part of a church that is very much engaging with the culture, so a straight up catechism isn&#8217;t the solution. However, when you utilize purchased curriculum, how do you impress the doctrine that you want to teach on the schedule you want to emphasize&#8230; when do you make time for it? I know, most purchased curriculum contains a certain amount of applied doctrine, but is it intentional enough?</p>
<p>The other thought? How do you maybe push this home? Yeah, our parents need to know this stuff as much as their kids? Can it be packaged in a way that kills two birds&#8230; teaches good theology while engaging parents? These are just thoughts&#8230; might write a follow-up post. You guys have gotten me thinking.</p>
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